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jimny1
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Re: Pension

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Post: # 21671Post jimny1 »

Lincoln45 wrote: 08 Sep 2021 19:09
HCR wrote: 08 Sep 2021 13:16
Rspltd wrote: 08 Sep 2021 08:29 I think you probably need to expand on this accusation. In what respect does an announcement by the Chancellor turn into an accusation of lying by Boris Johnson.?
Because he has broken an election manifesto promise !!!
What Government hasn't
Not to the extent these morons have
They should be in the guinness book of records for telling the most lies and breaking the most manifesto promises

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Retire1day
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Joined: 05 Nov 2019 20:29

Re: Pension

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Post: # 21672Post Retire1day »

I think covid means people do anything they want now and it is supposed to be a get out of jail card for everything, some have used it for murder.

I did say BJ is not right wing. Not sure I could vote for further left. Must be confusing for a lot of moderate left wing people and people on the right.

The situation does make me laugh a bit, I hope the money does go where it should but I read it is not even going to get there for 2 or 3 years.

I will just put more in salary sacrifice pension, no NI in, don't pay it on the way out of pensions either. I will have to pay more as I do need a certain amount so you can't escape it. Use an ISA, shares have gone down though as a result, companies have to pay higher NI as well, less profits.
Retire1day
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Re: Pension

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Post: # 21673Post Retire1day »

Still lose your house as well.
Army of stars
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Re: Pension

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Post: # 21675Post Army of stars »

Lincoln45 wrote: 08 Sep 2021 19:09
HCR wrote: 08 Sep 2021 13:16
Rspltd wrote: 08 Sep 2021 08:29 I think you probably need to expand on this accusation. In what respect does an announcement by the Chancellor turn into an accusation of lying by Boris Johnson.?
Because he has broken an election manifesto promise !!!
What Government hasn't
As much as this one? In my lifetime none....where has all the billions gone from the side of the bus promised to the NHS...i don't blame the Tories because they have always been corrupt grasping and self servng....i blame the toxic press that support them and the fools who voted for them and swallowed the lies hook line and sinker.
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jimny1
crummy
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Joined: 29 Oct 2019 17:12

Re: Pension

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Post: # 21685Post crummy »

Lincoln45 wrote: 08 Sep 2021 19:09
HCR wrote: 08 Sep 2021 13:16
Rspltd wrote: 08 Sep 2021 08:29 I think you probably need to expand on this accusation. In what respect does an announcement by the Chancellor turn into an accusation of lying by Boris Johnson.?
Because he has broken an election manifesto promise !!!
What Government hasn't
That is one of the problems... accepting that governments break manifesto pledges..

If we all accept this then what incentive do politicians have for telling the truth? Boris is in power now and just wants to forget parliament and do what he wants..

We should demand better from our leaders. :twisted:
Rspltd
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Joined: 03 Dec 2019 09:24

Re: Pension

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Post: # 21689Post Rspltd »

If you look at the manifestos of all the major parties, then they would all have been incapable of carrying out their promises in the light of a unprecedented virus which caused unheard of and unplanned spending. Just as a for instance , the Labour Party offered FREE social care for the elderly. I wonder how they would have been getting on with that. The world changes and actions have to follow the changes. On a microscale, a father promises his family a holiday. Subsequently he loses his job or there is a world recession or he can’t work due to Covid. Did he break his promise? Yes! Could he do anything about it? No ! Same with Governments. And since when was a change of 0.03% a plummet?
Adey
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Joined: 20 Mar 2020 17:27

Re: Pension

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Post: # 21701Post Adey »

When Boris became prime minister he said, I already have a plan ready to solve the social care problem, apart from the fact that he was obviously lying, how was he going to pay for it then ?

Bearing in mind this was before Covid came along.
crummy
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Joined: 29 Oct 2019 17:12

Re: Pension

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Post: # 21702Post crummy »

Just as long as people say they don't mind Prime Ministers telling lies then they will.
As said before, Boris was lying through his teeth before Covid came along..

If only the UK used the 350,000,000 a week there might not be a need to penalise pensioners.

And it just not good enough to say.. Well THEY did it".. We should have higher expectations or standards will fall even further (if that is possible)
freddo
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Re: Pension

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Post: # 21706Post freddo »

What is this ficticious 350 million you talk about it never existed
jimny1
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Joined: 02 Dec 2019 23:03

Re: Pension

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Post: # 21709Post jimny1 »

The problem with the cuts is it only applies to us commoners or the weak and poorer in society, look what they did to the nurses, they risked their lives during the pandemic and were offered a measly pay rise
When have the cons suffered any cuts , i didnt see them offer to forego their last payrise , most have probably gained from the pandemic , they certainly saved from the loss of older lives that was down to their policies during the pandemic

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