Capital Punishment

[Brandyboy]

Unless there is a radical change in the law, convicted murderers sentenced to life will very rarely spend the rest of their natural lives in prison, unless they are convicted of the most heinous of crimes, such as the Yorkshire Ripper or Robert Black the nortorious child killer and rapist, both of whom died in prison.

The term 'sentenced to life' doesn't mean sentenced to life, and as I pointed out, a twenty year sentence, which seems be the 'norm' for a life one, can be reduced, with good behaviour and parole, to a ludicrous twelve years.

So Paul puts forward very valid points about Huntley and 'double lifers' and until 'life means life', people will still demand the ultimate punishment for the ultimate crime.

[Army of stars]

If life meant life as I keep saying then no one would be released to kill again...
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But it doesn't.

And I think removing Ian Huntley from taking any more breaths is a favour to society not barbarism.

I suspect Jessica and Holly's family think it is barbarism that a man who did what he did to their children is kept warm, three meals a day etc and still lives.

As probably would i,but i still believe execution has more to do with revenge than justice.Whole life tariffs should be administered for murderers as i do not believe they can be rehabillitated nor do they deserve the opportunity to do so.

[crummy]

If life meant life as I keep saying then no one would be released to kill again...
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But it doesn't.

And I think removing Ian Huntley from taking any more breaths is a favour to society not barbarism.

I suspect Jessica and Holly's family think it is barbarism that a man who did what he did to their children is kept warm, three meals a day etc and still lives.

As I said before, neither thing will happen.

My way says that if a mistaken sentence is made then the innocent can be released at a later date. With capital punishment the sentence will be irreversible.

Perhaps people think that executing a few innocent people is OK just as long as we get a few guilty ones?..

And it is no use saying the innocent will not be found guilty, history tells us differently. Mistakes will always be made.

Life should be life.

JMHO of course.

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[Retire1day]

I think we should start with the Lee Rigby killers. Happy to do that one myself.

[crummy]

I think we should start with the Lee Rigby killers. Happy to do that one myself.

And no doubt the killer will be seen as a martyr and others might like the idea of being a martyr too and on and on it goes...

..Put him to work on the pig pens, mucking out, giving the pigs enemas etc that might make others think twice.

[Brandyboy]

This guy Charles Lorraine admitted to his heinous crime so therefore the judicial system had the right man no matter what sentence was imposed.

He was sentenced to death in November 1986 and was due for execution on 15 March 2023, but that has now been rescheduled for 13 May 2028 by the Governor of Ohio, which means that if he is executed on that date he would have been on Death Row for 40 years..

In my opinion after reading what he did to that elderly couple he certainly deserves to executed, and revenge has nothing to do with ,as I didn't even know them.

But to be on Death Row for that amount of time is absolutely disgraceful.

[Lincoln45]

Personally against the death penalty. Believe that nobody should be able to take another persons life, especially the "State" unless in self defence.

Interestingly, in the United States when they have executed someone they put the cause of death as Homicide on the death certificate.

[Brandyboy]

Personally against the death penalty. Believe that nobody should be able to take another persons life, especially the "State" unless in self defence.

Interestingly, in the United States when they have executed someone they put the cause of death as Homicide on the death certificate.

Yes I understand that belief and many conscientious objectors faced imprisonment and persecution during the war and were unjustly called cowards.

There is a general ongoing debate at the moment in the US about the word Homicide on death certificates and some states now use Execution instead, and although the word Homicide is a general term, many people associate it with murder.

From Britannica....

Homicide.

The killing of one human being by another. Homicide is a general term and may refer to a noncriminal act as well as the criminal act of murder. Some homicides are considered justifiable, such as the killing of a person to prevent the commission of a serious felony or to aid a representative of the law. Other homicides are said to be excusable, as when a person kills in self-defense.

[Army of stars]

This guy Charles Lorraine admitted to his heinous crime so therefore the judicial system had the right man no matter what sentence was imposed.

He was sentenced to death in November 1986 and was due for execution on 15 March 2023, but that has now been rescheduled for 13 May 2028 by the Governor of Ohio, which means that if he is executed on that date he would have been on Death Row for 40 years..

In my opinion after reading what he did to that elderly couple he certainly deserves to executed, and revenge has nothing to do with ,as I didn't even know them.

But to be on Death Row for that amount of time is absolutely disgraceful.

Wouldn't mind betting 1 or 2 lawyers made a few bob in those 40 years.

[Brandyboy]

If he'd been older he may have died by now and that chance increases by the year 2026. Why not commute his sentence to life at this stage.